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- Info-Hams Digest Wed, 1 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1408
-
- Today's Topics:
- Amateur Radio Newsline #850
- API for HAM CALL
- Ed Hare has no tie!
- For Sale: icom IC-W2A, access.
- HAM-server index file (2 msgs)
- HF Priv for Advanced Licensee
- Modem Software to Alert Many Pagers?
- modifiable radios
- Repeater calling procedure (Was: Elm (2 msgs)
- Repeater calling procedure (Was: Elmers are dead, god help us hams!) (2 msgs)
- smith14.zip - Hams: Interactive Smith chart calculator
- Talk America Radio Network
- TS50a
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
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-
- Date: 29 Nov 1993 01:07:46 -0500
- From: dorsai.dorsai.org!dorsai.dorsai.org!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline #850
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The electronic edition of Amateur Radio Newsline is transcribed from source
- material by Dale Cary. Newsline is reprinted here courtesy of Bill
- Pasternak, WA6ITF, Editor of Newsline. Editorial comment should be
- E-mailed to newsline@mcimail.com or B.PASTERNAK@genie.geis.com. Voice or
- FAX to +1 805-296-7180. Voice calls will not be returned due to the
- current fiscal situation at Newsline.
-
- NEWSLINE RADIO - CBBS EDITION #100 - POSTED 11/26/93
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- The following is late news about Amateur Radio for Radio
- Amateurs as prepared from NEWSLINE RADIO scripts by the staff of
- the AMATEUR RADIO NEWSLINE, INC. -- formerly the WESTLINK RADIO
- NETWORK. The electronic version of newsline is posted on this
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- please write to us with an SASE at P.O. Box 463, Pasadena, CA
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- Some of the hams of NEWSLINE RADIO...
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- WA6ITF WB6MQV WB6FDF K6DUE W6RCL N6AHU N6AWE N6TCQ K6PGX N6PNY
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- [850]
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- * * * * C L O S E D C I R C U I T A D V I S O R Y * * * *
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- * The following is a closed circuit advisory and NOT *
- * for air on amateur radio. We have received late word from *
- * our support fund administrator that the monies needed to *
- * pay the our monthly bills is still dangerously low. *
- * Yes, there are many sources of ham radio news, but only *
- * Newsline brings up to the minute ham radio news direct to *
- * you over your favorite repeater. But doing this costs *
- * money. It takes over $700 a month to keep Newsline alive. *
- * Recognizing this, Dr. norm Chalfin, K6PGX established the *
- * Newsline Support Fund. It's kept separate from Newsline *
- * and exists only to pay the week to week operating expenses *
- * of the operation. It again needs the support of all of *
- * you who want to see Newsline survive so that these weekly *
- * bulletins can continue to air. *
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- * The address for the Newsline Support Fund is Post *
- * Office Box 463, Pasadena, CA 91102. *
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- * Your assistance is needed as soon as possible. We thank *
- * you all for your ongoing generosity and support. *
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- * That ends the closed circuit advisory with Newsline *
- * report number 850 for release on Friday, November 26, 93 *
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- BOYER vs. FCC
-
- The San Diego Union Tribune reports that a ham wants his hand
- held radio back after agreeing to surrender the radio to the FCC.
- This, after he used the allegedly illegally modified device to
- place an emergency call to the county sheriff on a department
- frequency.
- The FCC says that Chris Boyer, KC6UQG violated its regulations
- when he showed up on a Sheriffs department administrative
- channel seeking assistance for his friend Craig Bosworth who had
- been injured in a cycling accident. This is exactly what
- happened because KC6UQG decided to be Good Samaritan and, in he
- process he seems to have stepped on the toes of some apparent
- bureaucrats in the San Diego Sheriffs Office. Bureaucrats, who
- seem to feel that their radio channels should never be used by
- anyone outside of the bureau, even if it if the situation could
- be a matter of life and death. Bureaucrats, who know the nations
- communications law and seem intent on using it against KC6UQG.
- Boyer contends that he made a responsible decision to use the
- sheriffs frequency only after exhausting all other communications
- options. He told the newspaper that Bosworth was in a ravine and
- that he tried five other radio channels and a cellular telephone
- without any success. It was then that he tuned his radio over to
- the Sheriffs department administrative channel to call for help.
- Two weeks after the incident Boyer says that he received a
- letter from Bill Kahn, the Communications Coordinator for the
- Sheriffs Department. Kahn directed Boyer to bring his hand held
- to a meeting with Kahn and a representative of the San Diego FCC.
- While the newspaper story does get a bit convoluted here, it
- appears as if Boyer was given a choice of facing prosecution in
- federal court for using an illegally modified radio on an
- unauthorized frequency or forfeiting the hand held to the
- government. He chose the latter and that should have been the
- end of it, but it was not.
- A few weeks later Kahn found himself in a similar situation.
- He was out on what the newspaper described as a pleasure hike
- when he took ill. The Tribune says that Kahn used a similar
- frequency to call in a Sheriff's Department helicopter to get
- him. When Boyer learned of this incident. He termed it elitist
- and hired a lawyer to go up against the Sheriff's Department and
- the F.C.C..
- But the Commission says that there is a big difference between
- Boyer using an illegally modified piece of ham gear on the
- Sheriffs' Administrative channel and a department employee doing
- the same using a properly Type Accepted hand-held with proper FCC
- licensing.
- At the request of Boyer and his legal counsel the
- investigation of this matter has been re-opened. Because of this
- the FCC cannot comment any further at this time.
- And this final note. Please don't blame the FCC for this one.
- As far as we can tell, the San Diego FCC office would not have
- gotten involved except for the Sheriff's complaint. The People
- running the FCC Office in San Diego appear to be leaning over
- backward to try and satisfy both parties in this case. Its the
- sheriff, or at least someone in the Sheriff's office that is
- making all the noise.
-
- *****
- CALLING FOR HELP IS ILLEGAL
-
- By the way, there are many hams who believe that any citizen
- can use any radio on any frequency to report an emergency
- situation and request aid. We thought so also, and that used to
- be the case, but not anymore.
- It all changed very quietly back on October 18, 1984. That's
- when the FCC passed Docket 83-991. This action modified Part
- 90.47, subpart A of the rules to read -- and we quote:
- "Persons or organizations maintaining an eligibility in
- isolated areas where public communications facilities are not
- available and where the use of radio is the only feasible means
- of establishing communications with a center of population, or
- other point from where emergency assistance might be obtained if
- needed, are eligible to hold authorizations to operate radio
- stations for the transmission of messages only during an actual
- or impending emergency endangering life, health or property for
- the transmission of essential communications arising from the
- emergency. The transmission of routine or non-emergency
- communications is strictly prohibited." -- end quote.
- That's the text of Section 90-47A of the FCC rules governing
- who is prohibited from using radio to report emergency
- situations. It also appears to be the regulation that the San
- Diego Sheriffs department seems to have come on to use against
- Chris Boyer, KC6UQG.
-
- *****
- NEW FORM 610
-
- A totally new Form 610 is on its way into ham radio as the
- result of the new computer at the FCC. As a result, the long
- standing traditional version will soon be a thing of the past.
- Among the significant changes, the new 610 does away with all
- of the boxes previously contained in the Administering VE's
- Report. The report itself has now been moved to the bottom of
- the front side of the form, right above the VE Certification
- area. As a result, an administering VE will now only need to
- indicate one of six classes of license that an applicant is
- qualified for. The sixth category is the Technician Plus and its
- inclusion on the new 610 is an indicator that the Commission
- plans on tracking the holders of the Tech Plus license using its
- new computer and software.
- Eliminated are areas to report current station location, the
- older Novice Test VE certification and the change of station
- location areas. Still included is the Physicians Certification
- of Disability to be used by candidates qualified to request
- waivers of the 13 and 20 word per minute code tests due to a
- physical handicap. This aspect of the 610 has been expanded to
- provide the FCC with more detail on both the applicant and the
- doctor providing the certification.
- The new 610 replaces the March 1992 version which carries a
- February 1995 expiration date, but which can no longer be used
- after the new version is available to the public.
-
- *****
- ARRL ELECTIONS
-
- The results are in for 1994 and hams from across the country
- have elected four ARRL Division Directors. Ballots were counted
- at League headquarters November 19th. Amateurs in two Divisions
- decided to stick with familiar names.
- Frank Butler, W4RH, is no stranger to the office he sought.
- Butler has served as Southeast Division Director for 13 years.
- Now amateurs decide he should serve two more years. Butler
- defeats three challengers, including the leagues section manager
- from Northern Florida. Butler wins by nearly a thousand votes
- over his closest challenger. In the ARRL's Delta Division
- another incumbent returns to office, Joel Harrison, WB5IGF, wins
- with a three hundred seventy four vote margin. In the Midwest
- Division Lou Gordon, K4VX, wins the Directors post with a sixty
- five vote margin. On the west coast Brad Wyatt, K6WR, formerly
- the Pacific Division Vice Director is elected Director. All four
- directors have been elected to two year terms. The winners take
- office at noon New Years Day 1994.
- Four Vice-Director positions were also announced on November
- 19th. Evelyn Gauzens, W4WYR, was re-elected in the Southeast
- Division. In the Midwest Division, amateurs selected Bruce
- Frahm, K0BJ. Jim Maxwell, W6CF, was elected in the Pacific
- Division. Finally, the Dakota Division's Vice Director slot goes
- to Hans Brakob, K0HB.
-
- *****
- MORE PREFERRED CALL SIGNS SOUGHT
-
- The ARRL has asked the FCC to consider a method of expanding
- the number of so called preferred call signs in Alaska, Hawaii,
- and Puerto Rico. The Group A call signs for Extra Class
- licensees have run out in all three areas, and Group B call signs
- for Advanced Class licensees are nearly exhausted for Puerto
- Rico.
- So, in a letter to the FCC, the ARRL has suggested that more
- call signs could be made available by a change in its Public
- Notice announcing available call sign blocks. The League said
- the incentive of preferred call signs was important to the
- continued upgrading of amateurs' skills.
- The League's proposal is this. For Alaska, that's Region 11,
- allow numerals other than 7, which currently is required in all
- Alaska call signs. In Region 12, Puerto Rico, allow the numeral
- 3 as well as the current numeral 4, with provisions for Desecheo.
- Finally for Hawaii which is Region 13, allow the numeral 7 as
- well as the current numeral 6, with provisions for the other U.S.
- territories and possessions in the Pacific.
- The ARRL says that this proposal is not related to any other
- currently before the FCC and requires no notice or comment rule
- making proceeding.
-
- *****
- CODELESS CONQUEST
-
- "Codeless Hams Conquer the World" is the banner in column
- three of page 39 of the November 1993 issue of Popular
- Communications. In his column, author Harry Helms, AA6FW, makes
- it very clear that he believes that the day is not far off when
- the codeless Technician class amateur will take over and rule the
- political end of Amateur Radio.
- Its after reviewing the unprecedented success of the no-code
- Technician class license that Helms gets to the meat of the
- story. He asks the rhetorical question of how much longer can --
- what he calls the ham radio establishment hold out -- when an
- eventual majority of United States hams will be holders of
- codefree Technician class tickets. Helms says that eventually,
- these Technician class operators will elect their own ARRL
- Directors more to their liking, or throw their collective
- political might to some new organization that better represents
- their needs. Helms who holds the call sign AA6FW says that
- either way, the current ham radio establishment -- we guess he is
- referring to the higher class license holders such as General,
- Advanced and Extra -- he says -- and we quote -- "the ham radio
- establishment is picking a fight it can't win." -- end quote.
- Helms also takes a swipe at the reluctance of the ham radio
- operators of today not being willing to let go of the Morse Code
- as a requisite to operate on bands below thirty megahertz. AA6FW
- feels that the last stand for Morse Code will be at the next
- World Administrative Radio Conference. He predicts that in less
- than two decades anyone will be able to get any class of ham
- radio license without having to take a Morse Code test.
- This rather intriguing Harry Helms article begins on page 39
- of the November issue of Popular Communications Magazine.
-
- *****
- TEACHING RS
-
- On the educational scene, word that James Sweitzer, KB9HRB,
- the Assistant Director of the Center for Astrophysical Research
- in Antarctica, Astronomy and Astrophysics Center University of
- Chicago is teaching an outreach class to students in that venue's
- inner city. The entire curriculum involves the study of Earth
- orbiting satellites including among others, tracking of the
- Russian RS10/11 ham radio satellite.
-
- *****
- FUJI OSCAR 20 SCHEDULE CHANGES
-
- Effective December 1, 1993, the Fuji-OSCAR 20 satellite will
- change its digital and analog operating schedule. At present,
- the satellite functions as a packet radio bulletin board every
- day except Wednesday when it switches to the analog transponder
- CW SSB mode for approximately 24 hours. But beginning on
- December 1st at 08:43 UTC, OSCAR 20 will be switched to the
- analog mode, Mode JA, where it will remain for one week. On
- December 11th at 07:51 UTC, it will be switched back to the
- digital BBS mode, Mode JD, for one week. The modes will continue
- to alternate on a weekly basis until further notice.
-
- *****
- HAMSHOWS WEST CANCELED
-
- Hamshows-San Diego and Hamshows-San Jose, both scheduled for
- January of 1994 have been canceled. This, due to health problems
- encountered by the company's President Mike Forsyth, N7KQE.
- According to CQ Magazine publisher Dick Ross K2MGA, the illness
- from which Forsyth is suffering is in no way life threatening,
- but Mike is required to refrain from strenuous activity at this
- time. Hamshows events slated for other venues later in 1994 are
- not affected by the January cancellations in California. Ross's
- CQ Communications is a co-sponsor of Hamshows conventions in
- association with Forsyth's Hamshows Corporation.
-
- *****
- BALLOON REWARD
-
- The ARRL reports Mississippi balloonist Robert Vandaman N5KBQ
- may be in the market for some new ham equipment. This is because
- Vandaman was the winner of the Key Grab in the 1993 Sky Parade
- held at an aerial exposition held at the Jackson Mississippi
- International Airport over Labor Day.
- In the competition, pilots attempt to manipulate their
- balloons into position that permits them to grab a key from atop
- a thirty foot high pole. Because of the complexity of the
- maneuvers that are required this is a balloon show event that
- rarely sees a winner. And when someone does succeed, the prize
- is usually nothing larger than a new car.
- But it was a lot more than a car -- or even two cars that
- Vandaman wound up with. The prize for this key grab was fifty
- thousand dollars in cold United States cash! Now you see why
- the ARRL is saying that N5KBQ may be in the market for some new
- ham gear. With these winnings he can set up a world class DX or
- contest station and still have money to spare.
-
- *****
-
- That's all from the Amateur Radio Newsline. You can write to
- us at Post Office Box 463 in Pasadena, CA 91102.
-
- * * * Newsline Copyright 1993 all rights are reserved. * * *
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Nov 93 15:56:54 GMT
- From: ogicse!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!mrtnt.ntrs.com!tntvax!ddb@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: API for HAM CALL
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm about to buy the new HAMCALL CD.
-
- Is there an API for the database, or is there a way to read it directly?
-
- Dan Bowker - NY9K
- bowker.dan@ntrs.com
-
- Please note that any of the opinions (etc...) I may have expressed are my own
- and don't reflect anyone else's (Including my employer).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Nov 1993 19:41:07 -0800
- From: qualcomm.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!agate!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Ed Hare has no tie!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV) writes:
-
- >Of course, it was okay, because this evil deed was perpetrated by
- >a friend, but ... if this is how I am treated by my friends, how horrible
- >it will be if I am ever mistreated by an enemy! :-)
-
-
- I tell ya, Ed gets no respect.
-
- First, the tie thing, and now, I find that his book review that is
- supposed to appear in QEX is nowhere to be found. Jon mentions it
- in the editorial, but I looked everywhere. I looked for it in the
- fine print, I looked to see if it was masquerading in Beezley's
- NEC ad, I even looked to see if it appeared as comments within the
- program listings. Still couldn't find it. Did his own colleague,
- The Editor, axe the article? Too bad, it probably would have been
- more interesting reading than some of the other stuff in November's
- QEX :-).
-
- To rectify this injustice, I think QST should publish Ed's photo
- in the next issue. WithOUT a tie, of course :-).
-
- 73,
-
- Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com
- Apple Computer, Inc.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Nov 1993 05:59:55 GMT
- From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!malgudi.oar.net!wariat.org!gazpacho.wariat.org!jamie@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: For Sale: icom IC-W2A, access.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- For sale immediately:
-
- icom IC-W2a Dual Band 2m/70cm Handheld
-
- Pager/DTMF/dual VFO/priority watch/code squelch/clock/timer
- Cross band repeater option (fun).. all the nifty bells and whistles :)
-
- Incl. slo charger/NiCD
- BP-84 1000 maH NiCD battery pack
- BP-90 Alkaline(AA) battery pack
- HM-70 Speakermike
-
- Very good condition.. had unit since Summer 93, used only for recv, and
- occasionally for Xmit (Im not lic'd) by friends. Cap on antenna is
- in lala land, HAM shop quoted $1.19 to replace. :)
-
- Still have boxes, warranty card, Operating guide, schematic..
-
- Amateur Electronic Supply list is ~$475 new (QST) for package.. I am
- completely open to any offers.. will ship 2nd day no xtra cost..
-
- "73"
-
- jamie
-
- jamie@wariat.org
-
-
- --
- jamie rishaw
- jamie@wariat.org
-
- You've been a very bad boy. Go to my room.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Nov 1993 03:15:47 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!uniwa!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!gilbaronw0mn@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HAM-server index file
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >ARRLINDX.TXT 17591 3-02-93
- >ARRLINFO.TXT 3321 2-02-93
- >ARRLJOB.TXT 18455 2-02-93
-
- Why do we WASTE bandwidth with long garbage like this list of files? The
- place for that is in a data base somewhere. If you want this list you should
- ftp it or have it emailed to you. IT DOES NOT BELONG on the newsgroup taking
- up an obscene amount of space.
-
- Gil Baron, El Baron Rojo, W0MN Rochester,MN
- "Bailar es Vivir"
- PGP2.X key at key servers or upon request
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 05:36:47 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!jherman@ames.arpa
- Subject: HAM-server index file
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <9311292209591.gilbaronw0mn.DLITE@delphi.com> gilbaronw0mn@delphi.com (Gilbert Baron) writes:
- >>ARRLINDX.TXT 17591 3-02-93
- >>ARRLINFO.TXT 3321 2-02-93
- >>ARRLJOB.TXT 18455 2-02-93
- >
- >Why do we WASTE bandwidth with long garbage like this list of files? The
- >place for that is in a data base somewhere. If you want this list you should
- >ftp it or have it emailed to you. IT DOES NOT BELONG on the newsgroup taking
- >up an obscene amount of space.
- >
- > Gil Baron, El Baron Rojo, W0MN Rochester,MN
-
- Phooey on you Gil! I for one am glad to see the list of files. This
- ham-server is a gold mine of info - I've gotten so many goodies off
- that list - I would have never known what they had to offer unless
- they had posted on here.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 25 Nov 93 00:35:38 MST
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HF Priv for Advanced Licensee
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm just getting back on HF after a 15 year absence ... is there a
- server someplace that would have the list of available HF frequencies I
- can use with my Advanced license?
-
- david wb7tpy
-
-
- ---
- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-6135
- Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 02:51:22 GMT
- From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!nuntius@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Modem Software to Alert Many Pagers?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Subject: Re: Modem Software to Alert Many Pagers?
- From: William A. Frieder, friederw@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu
- In article <2d2n07$qkm@mailer.fsu.edu> William A. Frieder,
- friederw@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu writes:
- >If you get a response that looks promising I would sure like to know
- >what you came up with. I have been passively looking for the same
- >thing for some time for our jump team! 73
- >--
-
- If you have a mac, "Notify!" by Ex Machina will work.
-
- 212-831-3142
-
- Rick Aldom
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 03:02:45 GMT
- From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!nuntius@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: modifiable radios
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <754339940.AA01756@rochgte.fidonet.org> David Stark,
- David.Stark@p2.f333.n2613.z1.fidonet.org writes:
- > > On the other hand, where is the compelling need for amateurs to
- transmit
- > > beyond the terms of their licenses on frequencies allocated by the FCC
- > > to public safety agencies? Why do so many hams feel that they have an
- > > absolute right to any piece of spectrum at any time?
-
- I think you have missed the point. In the original thread, the injury
- was believed to be serious enough to prevent movement or transport. The
- ham involved made reasonable efforts to use the ham spectrum and a cell
- phone. Put yourself in the shoes of the guy on the ground spurting
- blood.....His friend used his HT in a RESPONSIBLE fashion. He ASKED for
- permission before continuing his report. He cleared the frequency when
- it was appropriate. I hope if I am on the ground with a serious injury
- that someone will risk the red tape and do the morally correct act of
- getting me help even if it means using a radio or starting a signal
- fire......
-
- I feel morally responsible to save a life......Do you?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Dec 93 02:51:50 GMT
- From: ogicse!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!tedtrost@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Repeater calling procedure (Was: Elm
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >In article <CH9L8F.n4E@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Bill Blum,
- >blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu writes:
- >
- >having a hard time doing is figuring out how to talk
- >to a stranger but new member of the brother(and sister)hood with out
- >hurting their feelings, making them think we are being uppity, or
- >generally creating some sort of bad feelings.
-
- I was previously licensed in Canada (VE3TTD), and one of the first things I
- did was to join a repeater club. In addition to the latest newsletter,
- their first mailer to me included the link map, autopatch codes, repeater
- FAQ, and etiquette guidelines. Although I had listened for a while while
- waiting for my license, there were several good pointers. They were, of
- course, interested in proper use of the repeater, and instead of expecting
- others to learn by trial and error, they made an attempt at creating a
- "proper" repeater user out of every new member out there.
-
- I would suggest having something like the above made up for your
- repeater(s), and offering it to new licensees when they are heard (with
- mistakes, or without). Offering it "to make it easier to those who are new
- to THIS repeater" should take the sting out of it by making it clear that it
- is for thier benefit.
-
- Ted Trost
- Internet: tedtrost@delphi.com Delphi: TEDTROST CompuServe: 71175,1043
- Amateur Radio call pending.
- "I want to decide who lives and who dies." --Crow, MST3K
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Nov 1993 03:16:06 GMT
- From: munnari.oz.au!uniwa!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!gilbaronw0mn@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Repeater calling procedure (Was: Elm
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >In rec.radio.amateur.misc, sds@cs.brown.edu (Scott Swanson) writes:
- >>>If you want to talk to someone on a repeater, just say so.
- >>>"Monitoring" means just that. Call CQ, or say "anyone wanna talk?" or
-
-
- I never did understand why CQ on the repeater is frowned upon. Isn't it
- really the same thing when you say monitoring. Maybe CQ CQ etc doesn't sound
- quite right but what is wrong with W0MN on the frequency. I would
- apppreciate a call to chat. Repeated once or something along that line. I
- know it is frowned on but that is because most repeaters are more of a
- private clique than anything else and people don't want to talk to anyone
- that is not a part of that and they hate to be asked to because it makes them
- realize that they are ignoring people.
-
- Gil Baron, El Baron Rojo, W0MN Rochester,MN
- "Bailar es Vivir"
- PGP2.X key at key servers or upon request
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Nov 93 20:35:05 GMT
- From: newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!usenet@cu-arpa.cs.cornell.edu
- Subject: Repeater calling procedure (Was: Elmers are dead, god help us hams!)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CH9L8F.n4E@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Bill Blum,
- blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu writes:
- >I was going to take my HT to a friends apt. and check the SWR of a 1/4w I
- >made using his wattmeter.... on my way out of my apt. building, I checked
- >my mailbox. 30 seconds later, I was keying up. :)
- >
- >"N9VLS monitoring...."
- >
- >Two hams who were chatting about traffic seemed utterly oblivious to my
- >call.... a third ham joined in.... then, I hear:
-
- Ummm, you dropped your "monitoring" call in on top of an ongoing
- conversation?? Or was it quiet and the guys started up chatting about the
- traffic a moment or two after you made your call? If you just popped in
- on top of them saying you were monitoring, it would be a fair assumption
- on their part that you weren't listening where you were transmitting and
- might not actually be making a call that involved them. (i.e. confused
- about what offset, memory, whatever. If some talks over a conversation
- here, we give him a moment to figure out what is wrong) If you were
- monitoring, you would have known that a conversation was in progress.
-
- >
- >"You know...I thought I heard a new ham in there...."
- >"Bet he7s a nocode....."
-
- I'd have said - "Hey a new guy, welcome in. Is this your first qso?" and
- then tried to help you out getting things squared away - maybe taken you
- over on simplex to talk about the local etiquette on the repeater.
-
- The no-code crack is just a burr up somebody's saddle. We have all kinds
- of new folks here, coded and not, and you can't tell them by the manners
- on the air. We've taken to trying to give them some in class 'operating
- experience' to sort out the typical newbie errors though. With mixed
- success (so we have to figure out how to help them better! :-)
-
- >
- >"Let's drag him in shall we?"
- >"Yeah, let's..."
- >"n9VLS, N9VLS, <callsign removed to protect the local ham community>,
- >welcome to ham radio."
- >
-
- Well, at least they did welcome you. It sounds like you might have
- started off on the wrong foot by busting into the middle of an ongoing
- conversation (or I could be misinterpreting what you wrote about how
- things went) - which is kind of rude. You wouldn't do that to a couple of
- strangers in the mall would you? So why would you do it on the repeater?
- (because you were really excited about a new ticket is a good excuse! :-)
- A good rule of thumb is be polite - more polite than you would if you
- were face to face. (not a bad policy here either, you've probably watched
- lots of flame wars start here over trivial things that might have passed
- face to face) I would have been a bit taken aback, but once I realized
- you were new, would have cut you a lot of slack, and maybe tried to
- suggest that wasn't the best way to join into a conversation.
-
- Here's something you can do to help me. We have a lot of new techs on the
- repeater (like everywhere else I guess) and some of them are bringing
- habits that kind of ruffle other people's feathers. A bunch of us have
- been talking about it and while we can agree on what we'd like to see
- change, what we are having a hard time doing is figuring out how to talk
- to a stranger but new member of the brother(and sister)hood with out
- hurting their feelings, making them think we are being uppity, or
- generally creating some sort of bad feelings.
-
- We don't want to put down anybody, or their previous radio habits. We
- don't want to make them feel unwelcome. We don't want to make them feel
- there is a clique and nobody else is invited. We don't want to come
- across as technical holier than thous. We'd just like to see the repeater
- run more or less as it has, with more, new, and varied people to share it
- with. As someone who is sort of in the other side of the equation, how
- would you suggest we communicate our wishes/feelings/rules of the
- repeater without making someone feel uncomfortable?
-
- Mostly we've been leading by example, taking pains to include newcomers
- in the larger group, and just gritting our teeth at the "The Personal
- here is..." and other irritations - but it's starting to become an issue
- that is dividing the repeater denizens into two groups, the newbies who
- tend to talk mostly to each other because many of them know each other
- and the pre-existing hams who tend also to talk to each other and not the
- newbies because they find some of the new habits really annoying. This
- tends to reinforce the division, and both groups will tend to solidify in
- time I'm afraid. I think we would do a lot better if we could just say
- "that's really irritating, could you cut that out?" in a friendly (!) way
- and get past it and talk about important stuff - like the weather :-) So
- I'm really looking for suggestions here and appreciate any feedback you
- can give me. We could do this via email if you prefer. Or keep it here
- and see if it can develop into a useful dialog instead of a flamewar.
-
- >Fun welcome.
- >
-
- It's happened to me to when travelling or showing up on new modes and
- stuff. I'd concentrate on having fun and let it go. There's too much good
- stuff in the hobby to let a couple of experiences like that spoil it for
- you.
-
- 73 for now, and welcome to ham radio.
-
- Kevin, WB2EMS
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 05:55:25 GMT
- From: mentor.cc.purdue.edu!sage.cc.purdue.edu!blumb@purdue.edu
- Subject: Repeater calling procedure (Was: Elmers are dead, god help us hams!)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- ARGH!
-
- Maybe I didn't explain my first QSO very well.........
-
- I listened for a few minutes.....
-
- I -waited- for a break in the convo to give my "N9VLS monitoring" call....
- (I know that doubling over someone is a Bad Thing.)
-
- I knew I had a chance when one ham said he was pulling into a gas station,
- and away from his mike.....
-
- And, they weren't ragging me about being a lazy nocode.
- They were quite happy to see me on the air.
-
- It was a FUN welcome.
- --
- Bill Blum N9VLS blumb@sage.cc.purdue.edu Purdue University, W. Lafayette, IN
- Reality is for those who can't handle subscribing to IASFM and Model Railroader
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 1 Dec 93 09:02:21 GMT
- From: simtel.coast.net!msdos-ann-request@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: smith14.zip - Hams: Interactive Smith chart calculator
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have uploaded to the SimTel Software Repository (available by anonymous
- ftp from the primary mirror site OAK.Oakland.Edu and its mirrors):
-
- pub/msdos/hamradio/
- smith14.zip Hams: Interactive Smith chart calculator
-
- This program is a Smith chart calculator. It displays on an EGA screen
- the impedance chart, the admittance chart, the coefficient of reflection
- chart and the Q chart.
-
- An info display and a graphics cursor is used to explore numerically the
- plane. Elements (impedances, capacitors, inductors, transmission lines,
- stubs and ideal transformers) are entered by the keyboard and the resulting
- graph is immediately drawn on the chart. Up to two parameters of each
- element can be trimmed using two individual keys (up and down, upper and
- lower case).
-
- The program offers: hardcopy, frequency sweep, circle drawing, montecarlo
- analysis, schematic synthesis, and autotuning. A pop-up calculator for
- complex numbers is also included.
-
- smith14.zip has replaced smith13.zip.
-
- Uploaded by the author.
-
- Greetings,
-
- Giorgio Fontana
- fontana@itnvax.science.unitn.it
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 04:59:29 GMT
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!gatech!asuvax!ennews!anasaz!john@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Talk America Radio Network
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- wy1z@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Scott Ehrlich) writes:
-
- >I would like to compile a listing of broadcast stations across the
- >country which carry the Talk America Radio Network.
-
- >This network carries the following shows (that I know of):
-
- >Computer Exchange, 1700 - 1900 UTC (12pm - 2pm EST)
-
- >Modem Mania, 1900 - 2000 UTC (2pm - 3pm EST)
-
- >A Ham Radio Talkshow (I forget the name), 2300 - 2400 UTC (6pm - 7pm EST)
-
- >The local affiliate of Talk America in the Greater Boston area is:
- >1510 AM, WSSH
- >
- >I'll post a summary if I receive enough responses.
-
- >Speaking of WSSH, has anyone in the Boston area had any intermittent
- >reception problems during any of the above mentioned shows (like their
- >transmitter loses power for a period of time), or is it just me?
-
- Hey, Scott, aren't you the guy that called into our show today to
- talk about the internet? That was our very first national call.
-
- I'll try to get a list of Talk America stations. I should point out that
- the show is not limitted to Talk America. Any station can take it off the
- satellite and use it (I'm not sure of what they must do to get permission,
- but I am told it does not include being an affiliate of Talk America).
-
- John Moore NJ7E
- Cohost - Ham Radio and More
-
- --
- DISCLAIMER: These views are mine alone, and do not reflect my employer's!
- John Moore 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253 USA (602-951-9326)
- john@anasazi.com Amateur call:NJ7E Civil Air Patrol:Thunderbird 381
- - - My gun is safer than Ted Kennedy's car - -
- - - - "It is better to be judged by twelve, than carried by six." - - -
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 24 Nov 93 22:42:38 MST
- From: mvb.saic.com!unogate!news.service.uci.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!asuvax!ennews!stat!david@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: TS50a
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Is there an out-of-band transmit mod for the TS50 for MARS etc
- operation?
-
- david wb7tpy
-
- ---
- Editor, HICNet Medical Newsletter
- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-6135
- Bitnet : ATW1H@ASUACAD
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Nov 1993 20:12:34 -0800
- From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!apple.com!apple.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com>, <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au>, <Nov29.194927.39093@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
- Subject : Re: Calculating SWR
-
- galen@picea.CFNR.ColoState.EDU (Galen Watts) writes:
-
- >In article <754583670.19snx@mu.apana.org.au> jmorris@mu.apana.org.au (James Morris) writes:
- >>In article <1993Nov26.200816.19512@combdyn.com> lawrence@combdyn.com writes:
- >>>
- >>>How do you calculate SWR? I have a power meter...and I can measure the forward
- >>>and reflected power. How to I take the two values to determine the SWR?
- >>
- >>I am not trying to be mean, but did you sit a radio theory test for your
- >>amateur license ?
-
- >Yes, he did. SWR formulae are not on amateur tests in America.
-
-
- America as in the U. S. of A. or does that include Canada? The
- original poser of the question posted from Canada, I believe.
-
- We all know how easy the written tests are in the U.S., but don't
- the folks up in the great white north have to take real tests?
-
- 73,
-
- Kok Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com
- Apple Computer, Inc.
-
- ------------------------------
-
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